Re: Plowing through the Enneads

Jun. 21st, 2025 02:56 pm
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Again, this is a email that I am using as a post because I am to lazy to re-write it to make it seem stand-alone

I don't disagree with your philosophy. It just isn't how I prefer to operate inside my own brain.

I am not a great thinker, and truthfully spending too much time thinking about thinking makes me want to drink more than is good for me. So I do read your thoughts and mash them into my unordered and almost certainly incomplete view of how my brain works. I suppose my thinking about the way that consciousness works is like how I view the function of carburetors. I have a level of understanding of function day to day, and I know enough to guess correctly (at least the majority of the time) when to take the car into a skilled mechanic. I suppose that I read (and most of the time agree with) your writings because you think like the guys who wrote the service manuals. Me, I just drive the car.

Looking forward to the AI issue. I mostly think that it is a definitions issue. Look, not that many people in the world have "intelligence". What is being passed off as intelligence (both human and artificial) is the ability to absorb and execute a set of rules provided by people above us in the social pecking order. It isn't the intelligence of a healthy 12th century hunter-gatherer (which requires a much larger and diverse statistical universe), but it is an intelligence of sorts. Simply put, in the Industrial West today, intelligence is defined as the ability to follow the boss's algorithm faithfully. For most of the people in the "laptop class" which we used to be members of, this makes obtaining the means to purchase milk and cookies extremely difficult.

The unpleasant thought that I have been having of late is that my individual consciousness is perhaps more complex than I am capable of understanding. Doesn't mean that I am going to stop trying and I will probably keep plugging away at the issue, but I am increasingly accepting of the idea that I am probably wrong. I am also quite uncomfortable with the idea that my consciousness is not just mine. But it appears to be true. Right now I am beavering away, trying to come up with a valid argument for the idea that what I call "my" consciousness is mine alone and is not structured and effected by the world around me.

pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate

My sneaking hunch is that in my efforts to isolate and characterize a single phenomenon, I am chasing a simplicity that just doesn't describe the whole process I am trying to understand.

So, I ponder for a while, get frustrated, go for a walk, have a glass of wine, and then think about something else for a while.

Today I get the joy(?) of attending a one-year old's birthday party. The group attending is 20-somethings all on their first child. I am certain that I thought similar thoughts about my children during these years, but I am afraid that listening to a new parents delusions concerning the perfection of their child and the nobility of their sacrifice for the good of the anointed child is wearisome to me. The less-than-subtle hints that I should be "doing more" is quite annoying.

Non-Motivated

Jun. 20th, 2025 04:04 pm
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There is too much happening that is totally out of my control of ability to affect any change.

That is why I have been failing in my attempts to try and make sense of just what the F is happening. Too many moving parts that seem to be getting seriously out of synch.

I have about four or five pieces sitting in the woodpile that try to make sense of what is happening and none of them are worth a bucket of warm spit. I think that we are in a place where "damned if you do and damned if your don't" holds sway.

People don't like the idea that consequences occur whether you like it or not. One of the main ways that this manifests itself is the need to identify a person/organization to blame. What I am saying is that the society/culture/civilization is to blame and what we are experiencing now is things that have always been in the cards are playing out in a way that was always evident.

Look, I am not going to assign blame, especially here in the lala land of the internet, where by the simple fact that you are reading it and busily assigning blame is only possible due to the availability of a shard of the problem you are busily pecking away on.

The wind is changing. Best use your time and energy to make certain you don't end up on the rocks.

Venn Diagrams

Jun. 19th, 2025 07:34 am
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I tend to love the damn things (Venn Diagrams that is).  I find them interesting in the sense that they do provide a visual to kick off thinking about a subject.  I usually manage over time to start modifying them in my head.   They aren’t really all that good a way to accurately depict nuance and conflict within the particular system, but they ça donne à réfléchir.

Consider the simple diagram above.  This is (to me at least) a reasonable view of how to discuss politics in America.  I think that the colors accurately reflect how most of my friends view the situation. 

But I think that it is really not all that easy.  The sizes of the pinkish and the bluish right/wrong circles are not exactly equal as shown, even worse, the labels can be swapped by merely changing who is looking at it.  It is kind of a “Schroedinger’s label” kind of event, where you can imagine the labels in a digital closet somewhere and they only settle down, almost randomly on one of the two circles on you see above when someone allows them on the computer screen.

I suppose that what I worry about the most is that the little football shape that is the intersection of right and wrong where realistic compromises can be made is shrinking.  The two circles are moving away from each other and the space where compromises can be made is shrinking.

I think that I read somewhere that a significant minority of the US feels that an upcoming civil war is in the cards.  I have a hunch that there is no valid and falsifiable methodology that the yellow journalist who wrote the piece can produce to support his/her claim (label warning: I do not consider polls valid as their statistical universe is always constructed to support a pre-existing opinion).  But in this case, if I were to pull an opinion out of my ass (like the original writer, what sauce for the goose after all) I would not disagree with the 40% estimate, but rather hedge my claim by stating +/- 15%.

Politics is an odd beast that sleeps in the purplish intersection above.  Politics is also the human means of everything not turning into an oversized barroom brawl.  The solutions that politics gives you never really make anyone happy, it just makes the solution offered not worth fighting about.

The way that the country seems to be moving is that the sideways movement of the two circles is proceeding apace and the little football shape is growing smaller.  All I can hope for is that their speed doesn’t increase.

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I realized something fun while trying to read one of my favorite parts of the Iliad in Greek:

ἐν μὲν γαῖαν ἔτευξ’, ἐν δ’ οὐρανόν, ἐν δὲ θάλασσαν,
ἠέλιόν τ’ ἀκάμαντα σελήνην τε πλήθουσαν,
ἐν δὲ τὰ τείρεα πάντα, τά τ’ οὐρανὸς ἐστεφάνωται,
Πληϊάδας θ’ Ὑάδας τε τό τε σθένος Ὠρίωνος
Ἄρκτόν θ’, ἣν καὶ Ἄμαξαν ἐπίκλησιν καλέουσιν,
ἥ τ’ αὐτοῦ στρέφεται καί τ’ Ὠρίωνα δοκεύει,
οἴη δ’ ἄμμορός ἐστι λοετρῶν Ὠκεανοῖο.

On it, he made the earth, the sky, the sea,
the sun that never sleeps, the swelling moon,
and all the signs which circle the heavens:
the Pleiades, the Huades, mighty Orion,
and the Bear (which they also call the Wagon),
which always spins in place, watching Orion closely,
and, alone, being free of bathing in the Ocean.

(Hephaistos decorates the shield of Akhilleus. Homer, Iliad XVIII 483–9, as translated—hopefully not too badly!—by yours truly.)

This is, in fact, almost all that is said of the hieroglyphs on the walls of the great Temple by the archaic Poets. The Homer of the Iliad makes one other reference to the skies:

τὸν δ’ ὃ γέρων Πρίαμος πρῶτος ἴδεν ὀφθαλμοῖσι
παμφαίνονθ’ ὥς τ’ ἀστέρ’ ἐπεσσύμενον πεδίοιο,
ὅς ῥά τ’ ὀπώρης εἶσιν, ἀρίζηλοι δέ οἱ αὐγαὶ
φαίνονται πολλοῖσι μετ’ ἀστράσι νυκτὸς ἀμολγῷ,
ὅν τε κύν’ Ὠρίωνος ἐπίκλησιν καλέουσι.
λαμπρότατος μὲν ὅ γ’ ἐστί, κακὸν δέ τε σῆμα τέτυκται,
καί τε φέρει πολλὸν πυρετὸν δειλοῖσι βροτοῖσιν:

And first the old man Priamos saw him with his eyes
charging the plain and shining like that star
which rises in late summer, whose conspicuous twinkling
outshines the many stars in the dead of night,
and which they call by the name "the dog of Orion."
It is the brightest of all, but it is made out to be an evil sign,
for it brings much heat to wretched mortals; [...]

(Priam sees Akhilleus in his divine armor. Homer, Iliad XXII 25–31, as translated—hopefully not too badly!—by yours truly. The precision of "dead of night" is doubtful, since ἀμολγῷ is a hapax legomenon, but the gist is clear enough.)

Meanwhile, Hesiod adds agricultural timing to the rising and setting of these but mentions no other celestial figures. "The Bear" is the Greek name, and "the Wagon" the Mesopotamian name, for the constellation we Americans call "the Big Dipper." That Orion and the Big Dipper and Sirius are emphasized is surely no surprise, as even a city kid like me in a misbegotten age like this one recognizes these three beyond all others. The Pleiades and Huades are a little surprising—even knowing where to look I have not managed to identify them—but I suppose that, given their intimate connection with trade (Pleiades means "sailors") and agriculture (Huades means "rain-bringers"), their import to the Greeks is obvious enough.

But let me focus on the Bear's behavior: always watching Orion and never going near the water. "The sea" must be the horizon, as the Big Dipper is far enough north that it remains in the sky all year round at the latitude of Greece. Presumably, then, the sky is simply heaven, and the "underworld" is the part of the sky below the horizon which we do not see.

Now, I have said before that Osiris is Orion, the "great man of heaven;" that Horos is Sirius, his son and the brightest star of heaven, literally following Orion's footsteps; and that Isis and Anoubis are Argo Navis and Canopus, searching for Osiris in their little boat together. We might see Egypt as heaven, the sea as the horizon, and Bublos as the underworld. The original home of Osiris is obviously heaven, but Seth kills him and he floats to the ocean, which seems a clear reference to Orion falling below the horizon; Isis follows him and brings him back from the underworld, which is just as clear a reference to Argo Navis following Orion in the sky and Orion rising back up above the horizon again. (Indeed, after he returns, the boat becomes visible again, as Isis searches for Osiris's pieces.) That Osiris is "king of Duat" may be a reference to the fact that he is the most conspicuous constellation in the southern sky, and perhaps then it is no surprise that Odusseus saw Orion when he went to Haides.

I wonder if the Greeks got their star lore from Egypt (presumably via Syria—noting Homer's reference to "the Wagon," and noting that the name Orion is believed to be from Akkadian uru-anna "light of heaven"); if so, then perhaps it is no accident that the Bear is the only other constellation mentioned. Who watches Osiris carefully and never leaves Egypt? Why, Seth does; and Plutarch even tells us (Isis and Osiris §21, though be advised that I ignore his celestial associations for Isis and Horos) that the Egyptians associate the Bear with Seth. (I can even sorta see the Seth-animal in the shape of the Bear.) So perhaps we have another piece of the myth, still written in the stars.

As for the Pleiades, these are not directly referenced as far as I can tell in the Egyptian myth (though perhaps these are the servant-girls of Astarte which invite Isis into the palace). It seems noteworthy that Osiris was forced to the sea unwillingly, while Orion chases the Pleiades into the sea; perhaps this is why the Greeks emphasize sensual desire as the cause of the fall of the soul, while the Egyptians seem to have seen it more as simple necessity.

Very speculatively, I wonder if Thoueris and the serpent are the Little Dipper (an obvious choice for the consort of the Big Dipper) and the constellation Draco, respectively; the Little Dipper defecting to Horos because Polaris points the way North, and Horos begins his upward journey once she joins him. Certainly, the Staff of Asklepios—another symbol of the soul's purification—is a reference to the world axis, topped by Polaris, around which a great serpent is coiled...

Who knows

Jun. 18th, 2025 05:26 pm
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I am getting sick of every tom, dick and harry piping up with the "results" from the past couple of days concerning the ongoing wars.

I don't think that the truth will be available anytime soon. Anything that will happen will be dissected and spun every which way to suit the readership of whoever reads that particular offer. What is being written now is merely an odd form of advertisement where people spin serious, thoughtful narratives that a specific audience wishes to hear and will pay for.

Remember what constitutes the first casualty of war per Aeschylus.

Working away

Jun. 16th, 2025 05:04 pm
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Working on a piece about convenience while doing laundry.

Multitasking usually means doing twice as much half as well.

The Wind is Changing

Jun. 15th, 2025 09:53 am
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I wrote a little comment over at what is becoming my favorite JMG day “Frugal Friday”.  I was trying to discuss the price of coffee and the techniques I am using to keep up with this increasingly expensive pleasant habit.

I like coffee, I like the taste and I like the effect.  A couple of cups of good coffee, with a splash of half and half in the morning really brightens my day.  As far as habits go, it is probably my most expensive.  It seems only a year ago that I could by a big canister of cheap coffee Maxwell House of Bustelo) for $8.00 to $9.00.  Now I am spending $17.00 to $20.00 for the same canister.

 The other habits (?) are beer which I homebrew and have one 22-ounce every 2.5 days or so.  A lot of the time I forget to drink one.  I do make my gummi bears.  ⅔ CBD and ⅓ THC (7 and 3 respectively)  A batch of these (approx 100)  cost me around $25.00 and last two years or so in the freezer.

So I wrote about my most expensive and least offensive (so I thought) means of stretching my supply of coffee.  I merely wrote of adding some chicory and stretching the coffee supply.  I even put this request 

(to tea-drinkers, please don't preen. Tea has gone up about as much and it is all imported as well)

Well, one of the first things that happened is I got a bunch of tea-drinking folks ignoring my requests and telling me (at least in my overly sensitive opinion) that I should come over to the tea-drinking side and wallow in the virtue pond of non-coffee drinkers with them.

I suppose that this is kind of indicative of the nature of writing online and expressing an opinion.  The first thing that happens is that people will take time out of their busy day to tell you how you are going about it all wrong.  That their means of adapting to a changing world is somehow superior.  

Look, I am going to keep writing and explaining about how I am attempting to adapt to the changing world around me.  I write about decisions that need to be made and compromises with reality that work for me.  

The wind is changing.  Please don’t think that your way of handling the change is somehow better or more virtuous.  We’re all doing the best we can.

A Complete Shitshow

Jun. 14th, 2025 04:51 pm
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I can't even read the headlines anymore. Everyone is frenetically clutching their pearls, taking sides, and shouting incoherently. Everyone is certain that they know "the plan" and are popping up like everywhere. Everyone seems to have chosen sides.

Trump. Pity the fool. Everyone seems to want to pin the blame on this particular jackass, but the truth of the matter is that he is a front-man, a salesman that (like all salesmen) uses glad-handing, a haircut, a good suit, and a good golf game to sell shit. He is an excellent salesman, but he is nothing more than that.

So now we get to spend the next month or so trying to ignore the legion of salesmen in the differing media types attempting to sell me their narrative of how things are working out. In a real sense, they are minions of a system that is moving the way it wants to move and they are only providing a smokescreen of semi-believable (and sometimes not-believable) storylines to provide a particularly sinister forum for rooting for who is going to kill who.

I think that we are looking at a time where the old divisions are at each other again. The remnants of provinces the Holy Roman Empire and the Austro-Hungarians are fighting against whoever they feel is oppressing them this time (Poland is definitely gonna gets its turn in time). The descendants of Moses are still trying to smite the descendants of Amalek son of Eliphaz. Zhōngguó ( 中國) will continue to work on bringing 中華民國 back into line (this will happen about the same time that the new chip fabs being built here in the US are up and running).

Look, lots of stuff going on. Everything that we are fretting about goes a lot further back than 1945 and the long-suppressed animosities that came from the last set of lame compromises that were shoved down throats on the other side of the planet.

I am thinking that we are looking at another of the periods where more shit is happening than anyone has the ability to damp down. It doesn't mean then end of the world, it does mean that things are going to be changing in a way that lots and lots of folks won't like.

Past examples of unpleasantness:

1776-1812 (American Revolution through Waterloo) 1840-1870 (Europe's spasm, say goodbye to Metternich, say Hello to Bismark) 1915-1945 (The second thirty years war, because Two was a consequence of One)

So I kinda look at 2016 as the start of the current thirty-year mess. And this time we know what is happening elsewhere (I am looking at you China and India). We are just beginning to get some traction on this particular path of unpleasantness.

Now, you are probably thinking about how I seem blasé about this. I suppose that, in a sense, I am quite weary of it. But I will most likely live long enough to see things get worse before they start getting better again. My personal goal is to adapt to the world around me and make the best of what is going to probably be a somewhat less pleasant and lazy life.

Wait and See

Jun. 13th, 2025 03:56 pm
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I am hoping that we mind our own business and stay on this side of the pond.

But, that might be an unreasonable thought, so I am just watching. Maybe time to buy some more beans.

Rabbit Holes

Jun. 12th, 2025 08:59 am
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Trying to write.  Big stuff is hard work and I am not used to that anymore.  I think that I need to get back to the basics and realize that outlines and drafts work better than my lazy, stream of consciousness.  I think a lot of the time, things here on the web are the product of a certain amount of laziness and I am probably more guilty than most.

Consider this little gem that popped up over at wikipedia:

So, it appears that 16,000 words is somewhere in the range of a novellete or a a low-end novella.  

Then consider the subject.  Baby boomers.  Pretty easy stuff: people in the US born between 1946 and 1964.  So 16,000 words on a subject with a simple definition.  Must be a lot of freight in that train.  All I wanted was the definition.

Complex issues, freighted with a lot of nuance, secondary meanings, and societal taboo are not amenable to short blog posts or tiktok videos.  Maybe actually trying to understand any “whole issue: and the repercussions of any decision is difficult for me and others here in the simulacrum of discourse that is our digital stomping ground.  I’m going to keep trying, but nearly everything worth talking about ends up in yet another rabbit hole.

Rabbit hole is just another word for hard work.

Interpretations

Jun. 11th, 2025 02:25 pm
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“There are no facts, only interpretations” Nietzsche: I suppose that I am not in the running to be anyone's prophet. M. Uses the word "Explanation" a lot. I tend to lean toward "Interpretation" myself. Not that we aren't "discussing" the same phenomenon, it is just that in the act of trying to make sense of a world that resists such a foolish endeavor, it appears to be the nature of the beast.

I am currently reading Jerry Fodor's "The Language of Thought". I am chewing through the text, but the idea is presented in the usual academic manner, which is to say written by academics for academics and thus it is deliberately obtuse (thought it isn't as bad as many and certainly is vastly easier to understand than folk like Duns Scotus).

When I talk to myself inside my brainpan (and that is my take on where "thought" occurs) I am reasonably certain that (and this is pure conjecture) if science fiction were tried and you could "read my thoughts" it would be in a set of "types and tokens" unique to me and would require a level of interpretation equivalent to what I had to undergo to create the damn thing in the first place.

So, when I natter on here about thought and consciousness and the soul, I am not trying to tell you what is "true", but rather I am trying to explain what the firing neurons are trying to tell me. The analogy I am currently fond of is that of a seventh grader in rural america (english speaker) who is trying to take both german and french introductory classes and is trying to translate a german text into french.

So.......

Jun. 10th, 2025 03:31 pm
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It seems that things are getting weirder. This phenomenon is happening at nearly every level. Family isn't really struggling (relative to any rational set of standards) but they seem to be intent on bringing drama to the fore. Locally, the schools are in their finals, so the kids are twitchy and just wanting to get to the summer. State is actually the calmest of the set, I think that the multilayered state bureaucracy seems more intent on surviving the possibility of a purge made manifest by federal money drying up. I don't think that even in my fondest fantasy of omniscience do I really understand what the fuck is going on at the federal level, but it most certainly fits into the broader rubric of "weird".

Even the weather is odd. Yesterday I had to hole up in my sealed up apartment because the temp outside in my favored reading area got up to 103 F. (even the official temp from the weather station set a new daily record at 95 F.) Today looks to be more tolerable through.

What is nice about getting older is the simple knowledge that the foofooraw isn't the end of the world, all it might mean is that my relative comfort and limited access to privileges and luxuries might be changing. I really can't see much use in working myself up into a tizzy concerning the weirdness going on. It is going to go its own way regardless of any emotional baggage that I might freight it with.

I suppose that my ongoing discussions with M. concerning the nature of consciousness (or as I prefer to refer to the chimeric supposed entity "the soul" is helping me wander down the path of dealing with the world around me in a manner that is not going to leave me huddled in a corner worrying about it.

In my "applies only to me" intellectual musings concerning the nature of the soul, age allows me to understand that I am just here to adapt to an ever changing environment.

Following the Avenue of the Sphinxes

Jun. 9th, 2025 03:23 pm
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I have no idea what the Egyptian sphinx represents—best guess is that it was originally just a lion, but some narcissistic jerk re-sculpted his face onto it—but the Greek sphinx, at least, is simply the riddle, the puzzle, the koan personified: it entices you in with it's pretty face and soft breasts, but once you get close, it sinks its claws into you. (In fact, the word Σφίγξ "sphinx" is from the Greek σφίγξω "I will hold tight.") With that image, an entire avenue of sphinxes seems a frightening prospect, and yet here I am, traipsing down just such a path...


A while back I noted that there were two major Greek myth cycles, the "city myth" and the the "hero myth." The first of these (exemplified by the two great cycles of the Heroic age, Thebai and Troia) follows seven generations of kings as they found a city, the city's royal line splits, the main branch fails (due to assaults from foreigners ultimately caused by a divine curse), while the secondary branch moves on to found a new city. On the other hand, the "hero myth" (exemplified by the Horos myth and the Orestes branch of the Epic Cycle), describes the structure of the world that we inhabit and describes what we can do about it; it is meant to be an example to prospective initiates, just like Athenaie says:

ἢ οὐκ ἀίεις οἷον κλέος ἔλλαβε δῖος Ὀρέστης
πάντας ἐπ’ ἀνθρώπους, ἐπεὶ ἔκτανε πατροφονῆα,
Αἴγισθον δολόμητιν, ὅ οἱ πατέρα κλυτὸν ἔκτα;
καὶ σύ, φίλος, μάλα γάρ σ’ ὁρόω καλόν τε μέγαν τε,
ἄλκιμος ἔσσ’, ἵνα τίς σε καὶ ὀψιγόνων ἐὺ εἴπῃ.

Or haven't you heard what kind of renown noble Orestes gained
among all men when he avenged his father by murdering
that weaselly Aigisthos, who killed his illustrious father?
Likewise you, my friend—for I see that you are very handsome and well-built—
be courageous! so that even those yet to come may speak well of you.

(Athenaie, in the guise of Mentes, exhorting Telemakhos. Homer, Odyssey I 298-302, as translated—hopefully not too badly!—by yours truly.)

This is, in fact, why Horos never goes to Bublos or why Orestes never goes to Troia: they are drawing on the lessons of the "city myth" in order to determine their own path. The city is an abstraction or teaching to them, the stories of those who went before, rather than a lived experience. In fact, it suggests that the city is a place they want to avoid, a source of trouble! Because of this, it seems rather important to make sense of what the city is and what it means, but I've been in difficulty doing so. I hit upon a potential angle on it, though, that I thought might be worth walking through.

I recently mentioned the Ra Material in reference to Teiresias (himself a part of the Thebaian city myth), and while pondering this, I realized that "Ra's" metaphysics dovetails neatly with the city myth, with "Ra's" seven degrees of consciousness corresponding very well with the seven generations of kings; under this interpretation, the city myth describes the unfolding of the Cosmos from Source to Source, while the hero myth, situated at the end of it, tells us what we can do about it right now, today, and what we can expect to happen to us if we try.

As a disclaimer and a reminder, I'm pretty skeptical of channeled texts (and doubly so of anything "New Age") for a few reasons: first, I have a pretty strong anti-modernity bias; second, most people are incapable of reaching up to the aither to channel angels, and even if they can, it can be very difficult to tell since daimons "know how to tell many convincing lies;" third, the channelled material always reflects the biases of the person doing the channelling, and if one isn't personally close with them, it can be very difficult to correct for these; and fourth, the "New Age" seems to largely presuppose a worldview I don't adhere to, and involve wish-fulfilment fantasies which I'm not interested in. So this material needs to be taken with salt; please consider this post merely an attempt to expand upon my prior exploration of Teiresias in order to make a more comprehensive evaluation of the model possible.


Perhaps I should start by describing "Ra's" view of the development of consciousness. (Or attempting to, it is not perfectly clear to me, so take this as a sketch.) Consciousness is analogized as a vibration, and this continuum of vibration is discretized into seven degrees of consciousness, just like how we break up all the possible vibrations of the air into a scale of seven notes or all the possible vibrations of the visual spectrum into seven colors. Since souls are just a vehicle for consciousness, we inherently possess the capacity to vibrate in any harmony of frequencies, at least potentially; but in practice, one has to "climb the scale" a bit at a time, from lowest vibration to highest vibration:

  1. Red, which relates to being, and is the consciousness of "inanimate" objects.

  2. Orange, which relates to growth and movement, and is the consciousness of plants and animals.

  3. Yellow, which relates to social identity, and is the consciousness of humans. Being the vibration of identity, it is the first properly "individual" degree: red and orange are "herd" or "group" consciousness, while yellow consciousness is individual (at least once sufficiently developed).

  4. Green, which relates to love, and is the consciousness of lower daimons. Love is polarized: one may give love (compassion) or take love (selfishness), and thus green consciousness is dual in nature.

  5. Blue, which relates to communication and wisdom, and is the consciousness of higher daimons, though it is also (being the lowest vibration not subject to mortality) where we resonate with after death. Blue retains the polarized nature of green; the positive pole is the collective search of understanding (collaboration), while the negative pole is the individual search of understanding (hoarding knowledge).

  6. Indigo, which relates to universality, and is the consciousness of angels. Unlike green and blue, indigo is not meaningfully polarized, because of the nature of universality; negatively-polarized individuals, having mastered wisdom, come to understand this and reorient themselves positively as they endeavor to comprehend the All.

  7. Violet, which is related to transcendance and unity. This is, in a sense, rejoining the All and moving on to a new "octave" of existence, in which one co-creates the universe as and with God. (At least, apparently: "Ra" claimed to be of indigo consciousness, themselves, and claimed only secondhand knowledge about violet consciousness from its own teachers.)

Apparently souls usually ascend as groups: that is to say, the group of what we now call "human souls" all passed through the red stage more-or-less together, then the orange stage more-or-less together, and are now working through the yellow stage more-or-less together. ("Ra" says the reason why the earth is such a mess is that, apparently unusually, humans aren't developing consistently: a few are polarizing positively, a few others are polarizing negatively, and the vast majority aren't polarizing at all. Evidently conditions are much smoother in the common case where the group develops together.) There are uncommon exceptions to souls developing as a group, however: some people are souls of a higher degree, who incarnate as humans in order to teach and guide; while, conversely, some few human souls "jump the tracks" and, through spiritual practices or divine support or sometimes even by accident, behold God naked and become able to ascend separately from the rest of their group.

I think that's enough about "Ra's" metaphysics to get on with. So far so good, and other than the emphasis on soul-groups, isn't too distant from Empedokles or Plotinos.


As for the city myths, there is, unfortunately, no one good source remaining for either of them. I'd like to look at Troia today, partly because I looked at Thebai last time and partly because the Epic cycle is by far the more familiar to me. The outlines of it's history can be more-or-less cobbled back together from bits and pieces in the Iliad and Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite (which I trust) and the Library (which is my preferred fallback when a reliable source isn't available). Here is a sketch at describing the seven generations, with citations:

  1. Dardanos, the favorite mortal son of Zeus, founded Dardania at the foot of Mt. Ide. [Il. XX 215-8, 301–5.]

  2. Erikhthonios, the son and successor of Dardanos, "became the richest of all men" with a herd of three thousand mares. Boreas mated with some of these mares in the form of a black stallion, adding twelve semi-divine horses to Erikhthonios's herd. [Il. XX 219–29.]

  3. Tros is the son and successor of Erikhthonios, renaming the kingdom (but not the city) of Dardania after himself. [Il. XX 230, Lib. III xii §2.]

  4. At this point the royal line splits three ways, as Tros has three sons: Ilos, Assarakhos, and Ganumedes. All three are described as faultless. Ilos goes to Phrygia; he wins a prize of fifty men and women; following an oracle's instruction, he follows a dappled cow to the hill of Ate; he asks Zeus for a sign; he is given the Palladium; and he founds Ilios on the spot. Assarakhos, meanwhile, simply succeeds to the throne of Dardania. Ganumedes, finally, being peer of the gods and most beautiful of mortals, is spirited away in a whirlwind to be the immortal, ageless cupbearer of Zeus; Tros is grieved by his son's disappearance until Zeus sends Hermes to tell him what has become of him and give him divine horses. [Il. XX 231–5; HH 202–17; Lib. III xii §3.]

  5. Laomedon is the son and successor of Ilos, and also described as faultless. Kapus is the son and successor of Assarakhos. [Il. XX 236, 239.]

  6. Priamos is the son and successor of Laomedon; he is the final king of Ilios, since while Zeus loves Priamos and his city, he withdraws his favor from Priamos's line and gives it to Aineias. Ankhises is the son and successor of Kapus; he was seduced by Aphrodite, but not made immortal; and he secretly bred his mares to the divine horses of Laomedon (descendants of those ransomed for Ganumedes), thereby stealing their bloodline. [Il. IV 44–9, V 265–72, XX 236, 300–8; HH.]

  7. Hektor is the son and heir apparent of Priamos, but is killed in battle by Akhilleus. Aineias is the son and successor of Ankhises; he is the son of Aphrodite; he is most pious and beloved by the gods; and he escapes Ilios and refounds it after it is sacked. [Il. II 819–21, XX 293–308, XXII; HH.]


Now, let's synthesize these two models. I don't think this is too difficult! The seven kings can obviously be linked to the seven degrees of consciousness, with the line of descent showing the progression of consciousness (e.g. orange follows red just as Erikthonios follows Dardanos), and with the split among the sons of Tros showing the split in polarization at the green level of consciousness (e.g. just as, after Tros, the Troad has two kingdoms, Dardania and Ilios, so too does consciousness have two polarities after yellow). Everything else falls out naturally from there.

Mt. Ide (traditionally from ἴδη "woods," as in a place of material to harvest and work with) is the world-axis or ladder of consciousness, which is why Zeus sits atop it and watches all. The hill of Ate (Ἄτη "blindness, recklessness") is presumably where Zeus threw her after Hera tricked him into recklessly making Iphikles king rather than Herakles (cf. Il. XIX 91–136), clearly a place where a lack of foresight makes one deviate from the intended course. Dardania (apparently related to the onomatapoeic δάρδα darda "bee," like "bumble" in English, and an appropriate name for cooperation, as a hive of bees work together for the good of all) is the positive polarization of consciousness, while Ilios (which Ilos, of course, selfishly named for himself) is the negative polarization of consciousness, distant from Ide but still in sight of it (as one can never really escape divinity).

Dardania is founded by Dardanos at the foot of Ide since red consciousness is foundational, inherently positive, and where everything begins; while Ilios is founded by Ilos on Ate since green consciousness is the first that can be negatively polarized (though doing so is short-sighted). Nonetheless, each of Tros's three children are described as ἀμύμονες "without blemish," because all is one, so to love others and to love self are both to love God. However, Tros has a third faultless son: Ganumedes; Xenophon's Socrates (Symposium VIII xxx) makes the case that Ganumedes was beautiful in soul, and I likewise think that Ganumedes is a mythic representation of how peculiarly virtuous souls can short-circuit the usual path of growth through intensive self-development and/or devotion to divinity. Zeus withdraws his favor from Priam because negative polarization halts at the indigo level (thus ending the line of Ilos), and Hektor dies in battle because it is not possible for a negative polarization to transcend. Aineias refounds Ilios because the result of returning to the One is to co-create the next "octave" of consciousness.

Homer goes to particular lengths to talk about horses (maybe they should have called him Φίλιππος Phillip "horse fancier"), so these must be noteworthy for some reason. I suppose that while the kings represent the levels of consciousness in general, the horses must represent their property; that is, specific individuals or groups of individuals within those levels of consciousness. Perhaps the wealth of Erikhthonios indicates the vast speciation of the natural world, while the offspring of Boreas ("the North Wind") indicates that only some of the many species of animals are judged desirable enough to become vessels of the yellow level (e.g. are imbued with "breath" or "wind," that is, individual soul); perhaps the horses Zeus gifts to Ilos indicate that while some beautiful souls may leave the group, the group is not neglected, but is in fact given support in recompense for their loss in order to maintain balance; that Ankhises breeds his horses with the descendents of these perhaps suggests that these beautiful souls join groups of the indigo level ("go to be with the angels"). These kinds of things aren't really discussed in the Ra Material so far as I recall, though, so this is all not-terribly-deep guesswork based strictly on the symbolism in the myth.


A few miscellaneous notes from while I was working my way through all this:

  • I have long wondered why Homer is so very down on Aphrodite; she seems to me to be among the nicest of the gods. One nice thing about this interpretation of the city myth is that it makes sense of this. Aphrodite is love, and loving mode of consciousness—green—is where polarization takes place; since Ilios is the negative polarization, which is ultimately incapable of returning to the source, this is the reason for the city's downfall. In fact, that Zeus refuses to adjudicate the apple to any of the goddesses indicates that God has given us free will to choose our paths; that Paris has to choose between Aphrodite (= love​ = green?), Athene (= wisdom​ = blue?), and Hera (= universality = indigo?) indicates that these are the levels affected by choice of polarization; that Paris chooses Aphrodite for reasons of self-gratification reinforces the recklessness (ate) of the negative polarization in general.

  • I'm not really prepared to do a deep-dive on the Thebaian myth yet, but while we're talking about sphinxes, it's worth noting that Oidipous, being of the fifth royal generation, would, by this theory, be of the blue, or wisdom, degree of consciousness. This makes his solving of the sphinx's riddle—a test of wisdom—pretty appropriate!

  • If you'll recall in the Horos-myth, I likened Thoth to "experience," the reason or purpose behind climbing the ladder of consciousness: so God-in-part can come to know part-of-God. Thoth is married to Maat, the "necessity" of this occurring. It is noteworthy that the child of Thoth and Maat is Seshat "scribess," who is depicted with two cow horns and a seven-petalled flower above her head. It is plausible to me that "scribess" is a reference to consciousness being that which observes and records (cf. Od. XI 223–4) and the seven-petalled flower is indicative of the seven modes of consciousness here described:

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    This would, of course, presuppose that "Ra" is correct in saying that they influenced the development of Egypt with their teachings.

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